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intrigue
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Hi Ladies, thanks for all that info Diane.
I am taking almost all of those suppliments you listed (although I am not 100% religious with them, take all probably 4 times a week... I feel nausous all day on the days that I take them). The Acup didnt say a huge amount about DH morphology other than it had to be fixed and he could fix it in 3 months with acp and herbs (the acup actually told me before talking to DH that he was going to scare DH into doing treatment by telling him that if he didnt do it his son would have the same problem.. maybe true but not really a nice tactic).

I think you are right in that there is something in the whole blood circulation thing. Molls got good results using a hot water bottle to improve her uterine lining (I think) and I have read about the warm foods and things.

I had emailed my FS clinic last week asking them for dates in the new year (Feb) so that I could consider delaying the IVF until then.. well the nurse called yesterday and was like, you shouldn't waste anymore time! I was like yer but I am having trouble with the decision and want to know my options. She didnt give me the dates that I wanted just kept saying that really with my test results I should just get on a do it.. I think partly because of the potential clinic closure as well (she said they can guarantee all treatments untilt the end of the year). So I say that sounds like you not hopeful to continue into next year but she say no .. I think we will be here.... so confusing!

So then I say but as it looks like my O day is a day or two late I may miss this cycle anyway (she had told me that previously) but she say nope, we can make it work..

I hit her up then.. do you recommend these treatment because its easier and financial beneficial to the company? She say no, I work for you in your best interest... okay good but why is she so busy telling me what to do, rather than giving me options and helping ME to choose.

Sorry ranting..

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Me 35, DH 44
TTC 5yrs (5yrs previous DH BFN)
Me low AMH @ 8.4 = Low fertility
DH Low S Morphology @ 5% normal = Low fertility
2 x IVF/ICSI.... BFN - bad eggs, advised to use donor eggs.
Gave up and moved on. Then conceived naturally but had missed miscarriage.

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After the call and telling DH.. that we had been told to progress in Nov.

I then started to panic about 'do I really want children' I mean do I really really want or have I just worked myself into a TTC frenzy... okay so I'm crazy, anyone else crazy too?

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Me 35, DH 44
TTC 5yrs (5yrs previous DH BFN)
Me low AMH @ 8.4 = Low fertility
DH Low S Morphology @ 5% normal = Low fertility
2 x IVF/ICSI.... BFN - bad eggs, advised to use donor eggs.
Gave up and moved on. Then conceived naturally but had missed miscarriage.

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Intrigue- I actually got really great results when I stopped going to my accupuncturist. I got pregnant!!!
Okay the pregnancy did not last and I did do tons of pre-work with her. So here is the story. I started seeing an accupuncturist for the first time last August and I would go twice a week. So after the first of October it got a little expensive and I wanted a break and I was going on vacation near my ovulation period. I did not even know if I would be able to have the IUI. She told me to keep a heating pad on my belly to keep that area warm. So I did that and some fertility massage at home. I have a DVD that is really good. So I took my clomid and had my IUI with my husbands frozen sperm since he was not in town and I was going to be going out of town to my sorority reunion. All I had was the one IUI treatment the whole cycle-no baby dancing.
Well I concieved the baby October lost the baby in December. I am kind of weirded out because I am restarting IUI's in October like last year. I hope it does work but I know I will be paranoid and I really don't want to repeat that. Just sometimes you have little reminders like a woman who had their baby around your lost childs due date and trying to concieve when you did last time. I am going to just relax and try not to put too much into it.

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intrigue
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Hi Diane, thats pretty hard to deal with hey (the timing and the miscarriage)! Surely the same thing could not happen twice.. Really hoping the IUI works for you so that you do not have to go through IVF again.

Today I am feeling a little better about IVF. I woke in the middle of the night with a comment the nurse made in my mind.. she said, we need to know whats going on and we can only do that by cycling you.. So I think I am going to consider IVF as just another part of the testing process (but this test is the best cause it stands a change of getting me pg.. wahoo)

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Me 35, DH 44
TTC 5yrs (5yrs previous DH BFN)
Me low AMH @ 8.4 = Low fertility
DH Low S Morphology @ 5% normal = Low fertility
2 x IVF/ICSI.... BFN - bad eggs, advised to use donor eggs.
Gave up and moved on. Then conceived naturally but had missed miscarriage.

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Intrigue- I'm sorry with all you are going through, It's so much to figure out and think about isn't it! I was told the same thing about IVF when I was first having issues with infertility, as soon as they saw my FSH levels and then figured out I had Endo, both my General Practitioner and my reproductive Endocrinologist told me that I should even wait until the summer to do IVF, my time was running out etc. well here it is over a year later and I'm finally doing IVF. I though I would give it one more year, and try everything I could before giving into doing IVF, Acupuncture, Herbs, massage, yoga, cleanses you name it I tried it. But here I am. They also told me that cycling was another way to figure out exactly what's wrong and fix me, That's why IVF often takes 2 or 3 tries before they get it right. And it's SO freakin expensive. I am still so nervous that IVF won't work but I want to try everything because like you I REALLY want kids, always have.

Diane - That's odd about how you got PG right after you stopped Acupuncture. My acupuncturist actually put me on herbs that wouldn't allow me to get PG, it was to help the endo "relax" a bit and once I got off the herbs I was supposed to TTC again, obviously it didn't work,, at least not quick enough for me and I felt like it was time to move to the next step. I can't imagine how terrible it would be to go through a miscarriage, I've never been PG but I think Id prefer that to being able to get PG and miscarry. I hope that you never have to go through that again and that your next Pregnancy sticks! FX! Can you tell me the name of your fertility massage dvd? I'd like to try everything I can.

AFM - Tonight we took the last of the Antibiotics, tomorrow is my last day for the BC pill and then AF should be here, darn that was a nice break! And then next week the whirlwind starts. I am so anxious about it all, I'm hoping so bad that it works for is and we have a healthy baby in 2012. I hope with all my might the same for you guys too.

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Amber
TTC #1 since 2008
Diagnosed with stage 4 Endometriosis in September 2010
3 failed IVF cycles with local clinic
1 failed cycle at CCRM But we got accepted into their new study so we are trying one last time! FX!
2nd cycle w/CCRM. 3 perfect blasts out of the bunch, xferred 1, BFP!!!!
DS Born June 24th! We are truly blessed.

intrigue
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Owe Amber its getting exciting! Next weeks you'll start jabbing and stuffs... its only like 13 days till I start b/c and I think Molls is already on it...

WHERE ARE YOU MOLLS! on holiday I know but....

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Me 35, DH 44
TTC 5yrs (5yrs previous DH BFN)
Me low AMH @ 8.4 = Low fertility
DH Low S Morphology @ 5% normal = Low fertility
2 x IVF/ICSI.... BFN - bad eggs, advised to use donor eggs.
Gave up and moved on. Then conceived naturally but had missed miscarriage.

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http://natural-fertility-info.com/fertility-massage

That is the link. I also ordered a fertility yoga DVD that I plan to do its called- Restoring Fertility by Drs. Brandon Horn, PhD, LAc (FABORM) and Wendy Yu PhD(c), LAc (FABORM). It got great reviews on Amazon.com

Working and being in school means its hard to get in accupuncture appointments and even going to the gym. I am just happy to get some sleep! I know I am being more low key about everything this time around because I really am doing everything I can possibly do. I spent a lot of money on accupuncture for many months and I just don't feel like doing that all over again until IVF. I rather get a spa treatment or eat more organic food. I plan to start the accupuncture in December after finals week.

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Thanks Intrigue!! Wow you are right behind me, Molls too! This is great, And how great that it will work for this whole group and we'll all have babies in 2012 and we can rename the forum, the IVF buddies success group Smile

Diane - Hi again, Thanks for the link. I have heard of that lady and her website before, I will definitely give it a try and also look into the other DVD you mentioned. I have been wanting to find some good DVD's for this stuff and take matters into my own hands a bit more. If this 1st round of IVF doesn't work I will need a different approach and I will need to save as much money as possible. I think your approach this time, a more laid back approach, will probably be good for you. I wish I could be more laid back about it all, I think it's healthier mentally.

AFM - Well ladies I got my meds shipment today, wow that is overwhelming, a pretty large box filled with ice packs and meds and syringes etc., hmm. On Tuesday I go and learn how to use it all and have my baseline appt. and on Wednesday I start the meds. It's going to be a whirlwind from here on out, I know. I also talked to my acupuncturist today and told her that my RE suggested no herbs, she was ok with it, I told her if IVF didn't work the 1st time I may try the herbs for the 2nd round... possibly, we'll see. She also told me that she didn't think acup. would necessarily be a good idea the day after the transfer as she said she recommends bed rest that day, she didn't know if an additional treatment the day prior to the transfer would be necessary either but said that wouldn't hurt. So I may just stick with the plan and just do the acup. immediately before and after the transfer.

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Amber
TTC #1 since 2008
Diagnosed with stage 4 Endometriosis in September 2010
3 failed IVF cycles with local clinic
1 failed cycle at CCRM But we got accepted into their new study so we are trying one last time! FX!
2nd cycle w/CCRM. 3 perfect blasts out of the bunch, xferred 1, BFP!!!!
DS Born June 24th! We are truly blessed.

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Hi again gals - SO I had my Big appt. today and am overwhelmed and feeling a bit negative about the whole thing working, but that could be AF talking, she is a little late but she should be here any minute, in fact if she's not here by tomorrow than that will make changes and delays in the whole schedule. Anyway I did another U/S, did the mock transfer, weighed in, and Got the rest of my meds today plus instructions on what to do with them... there are SO many, and so much prepping for each shot, it's confusing! And this is just for the 1st 3 days, It will only get more confusing from here on out. But at least we are almost there. Only 11 or 12 days until the retrieval!!! DH was great, I'm glad to have him be the one to jab my in the hip every night, I don't know what I'd do without him. But I'm really having trouble feeling like it will work, and it's so much money if it doesn't work it will really be so hard for us because we can't afford to keep doing this, if we don't get extra embryos to freeze I don't know what we will do. I just have to hope and pray that it works the 1st time.

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Amber
TTC #1 since 2008
Diagnosed with stage 4 Endometriosis in September 2010
3 failed IVF cycles with local clinic
1 failed cycle at CCRM But we got accepted into their new study so we are trying one last time! FX!
2nd cycle w/CCRM. 3 perfect blasts out of the bunch, xferred 1, BFP!!!!
DS Born June 24th! We are truly blessed.

intrigue
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Owe Amber I can totally appreciate how you are feeling and I havent even got the overwhelming medications part.. Puzzled

I too am like you in that I will only be able to afford to do one cycle and when you read and hear all the stats it does seem like that is all but impossible.. However it does happen and I guess it probably happens more than we hear (because we hang out in infertility groups). I have been getting myself all worked up about how to make it work, what happens if it doesnt (hell what happens if it does). I am now practicing a new line of thought - that is that I cannot make it work or not, the only thing I can do is prepare myself for the opportunity, the rest being whether I have children or not I will have to leave to fate, the gods, the FS specialist etc. This has helped me to find a little peace with it all.

My current challenge to over come is that (due to the psycics I saw and my interpretations of their comments) I now have a belief that the first one fails, success happens next year, but I must do the first one in order for the second to work. As I can only afford one cycle I presume the second is a FET.. Arrg..stupid how the mind works sometimes isnt it.. I mean seriously the psycs have no idea they changed their mind from the beginning of a reading to the end. I have no idea and am only kidding myself to pretend I do and I know that thinking that the first one will fail will not help remotely in making the first one work. I think it might just be me trying to protect myself. but either way I have to find a way around it before I begin.. OMG its only days before the pill popping begins.

I really hope today offers you a little more peace as you begin your injections and things. Hopefully you feel better as you come to understand what has to be done and when.

Mind you AF is late!!!!! Perhaps she wont come at all... that would be just the best

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Me 35, DH 44
TTC 5yrs (5yrs previous DH BFN)
Me low AMH @ 8.4 = Low fertility
DH Low S Morphology @ 5% normal = Low fertility
2 x IVF/ICSI.... BFN - bad eggs, advised to use donor eggs.
Gave up and moved on. Then conceived naturally but had missed miscarriage.