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Velly
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Sio, welcome back! That is very exciting about your brother and his new bride!! I am sad for you and the fact that your DH is being deployed earlier than hoped! Lets hope that maybe by a miracle he will be around for your Oct O Big smile Regarding the acupuncture, definitely make sure they do a "consultation" before doing the treatment but also make sure they are clean and use only sterilized needles. The place I go to they use needles that come in a sealed sterilized pack then dispose of them the same as they do in hospitals. Plus if they are a good acupuncturist they will give you a receipt that you can submit to your insurance company if you have insurance for that. I know thru my insurance at work I get reimbursed for the treatment.

Amber, that is terrible about your poor dogs!! I would have been sick from the smell myself LOL. At least you can laugh about it now! I have my FX for your too!! When do you test Amber? We must be close to the same time...

Dawn, my acupuncturist said that she normally prescribes herbs too but she wants to wait for a few treatments with me then if nothing happens she will go that route too but you have to be careful about TTC while on some herbs because they can actually cause miscarrigaes (some of them). She told me that if she does put me on her.bs that I would have to use protection for the month that I would take them. But by the sounds of your situation, I would definitely take the herbs Dawn because I am certain they will help in your situation with the endo and all. What yours said about the white light does make sense because you then actually using the positive thinking and relaxation to help heal yourself too. I have been thinking that way too. FX and baby dust Wink

Shep, I hope you are feeling better today! I did read your post in the other forum and I really feel for you and your situation. I hope that you and your DH can find a way to relax and take a break from all the extra stress you are facing right now. I want to be a support to you as much as I can, you can lean on all of us here too! We may not have the same situation but we do sympathize and feel your sadness and frustration! Sad

Sending you all baby dust and happy thoughts for the rest of the day!

Vel

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shep - where did you go? Did you give up on us? Smile Hope all is ok with you.

Velly - Thanks, the dogs and house are starting to smell a bit better, still awful but better Smile Are we cycle sisters thins month? I am 4 or 5 days past O. FX we both get BFPs

Sio- So sorry about DH deployment. That would be great if you and your brother has babies at the same time though. I hope you get your BFP before DH deploys.

AFM - Nothing new with me, just trying to be patient during this 2ww. I am definitely not as excited and anxious as I usually am since I got the endo diagnosis last month. And I just got the RE's diagnosis in writing in the mail a couple days ago, it's even tougher to see it in writing. Just gotta save, save, save so we can try to do the IVF.

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Diagnosed with stage 4 Endometriosis in September 2010
3 failed IVF cycles with local clinic
1 failed cycle at CCRM But we got accepted into their new study so we are trying one last time! FX!
2nd cycle w/CCRM. 3 perfect blasts out of the bunch, xferred 1, BFP!!!!
DS Born June 24th! We are truly blessed.

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*** WARNING - this is very long... you might want to grab a cup of coffee and a snack - you will be here for a while!!! Wink
Hi ladies!! Sorry, I was MIA for a few days.. I had to get a few things done around here (the grass was getting becoming a field), the carpet was a disaster, the film on the tv was obstructing the view (Blue from Blues Clues was no longer blue but somewhat grey)..

We bought the Pre-Conceive Plus Male Fertility Test online to see what his count was like. When we got it, it was expired. i posted in 2WW about it.. I contacted the company and they said they don't even make it anymore and of course not to use it. We wondered how off could it be, being it was only a few months expired, like do the chemicals really wear down that much?? We weren't going to take it, but since we paid 50 bucks for it, we pondered what the results could be and how we would feel...

DH and I decided to try the test anyway (Pre-Conceive Male Fertility Test). I am now thinking we shouldn't have. According to the test (expired May this year) his test was negative.. . He had his reversal in June and the doctor did say it can be anywhere from 4-7 months before his sperm come back. I don't understand the 72 day maturation process for sperm. So, that means he started making sperm the first time he ejaculated after his procedure (around the 2nd week of July). And so that means he won't even have any healthy sperm until the middle of next month????? I have heard of women getting pregnant a few weeks after the man's procedure.. How would that be possible? The test said he had less than the 20 million cut off. Talk about more disappointment................ Sad Sad Sad ... Of course he was the sweetest ever, saying "don't worry about it right now.. I will take all the vitamins, try the Clomid (he read that men can take it too), only wear boxers (he had to wear the tighty whities after the procedure because he hurt down there) and will do whatever I can"... He is the kindest, most sincere, loving, generous, good hearted man I have ever met.. God really knew what he was doing, having DH and I meet.. love was instant.. We actually married 3 months after we met - I had the wedding of my dreams.. and it's been a honeymoon ever since.. literally BDing every night..

Maybe that is one of the problems with having a low (or next to nothing) sperm count.. we do it every day.. But, wouldn't that increase the production of sperm? Supply and demand???

Sio, glad you are back too.. Wow, Guam... I don't even know where that is on the map ! Geography wasn't my best subject in school.. actually, none of the subjects except lunch were very good.. Wink
I lived in PA for 6 miserable years (with the ex). I will say it's beautiful in the fall - to visit.. not to live there though.. I found where we lived there was nothing but old people and mullets!! The trees were gorgeous in the fall, and the 1st snowfall was awesome... but then it got just plain fugly..

Velly, I am glad things went well at the acup!! I think very highly of women who can handle having all those needles!!! ewwwwwwwww!! It does make sense what she said, the warm, fuzzy thoughts of being pg.. The mind is a very powerful source, it makes us feel things that aren't really there sometimes - I mean like having soooo many symptoms of being pg, then we get AF.. We already have the positive thoughts, I don't know what to do differently.. please keep me posted how you change things.. I would love to hear what you try as I need to work on thinking more positively myself (about everything!!)!!

I guess Maggy and Dros are MIA also? I would love to hear an update....

Amber, thanks for the advice on copying (I did, that's why this posting is so flippin long)!! I did too much sulking, but for overall reasons, so DH made my appointment with the dr and took me.. That was probably the best thing, what I needed to do.. I have a very hard time letting go of things.. I don't know how - especially when it's not all over yet.. The fighting with my ex - we still have a property issue to fight over. I am so glad the custody and child support part is over, that took almost 2 years alone.. and now we are fighting to keep our home. It is a mess still, but DH is so strong.. Thank God for him, or I would have lost it all by now. I sometimes get mad at myself for laying so much crap on him, when I know he has his own issues he worries about - Although, he does know how to get past things - he doesn't believe in sitting on a pitty pot.. He thinks you should get over whatever it is and move on.. he is realizing not everyone is like that.. like me.. especially when the "issue" isn't totally resolved yet.. That is why I have the best shoulder to lean on, though.. he totally keeps my spirits as high as they can be.. always looking at the positives.. what a true blessing he is!! Big smile

Dawn, I would ask the dr or the specialist to retest. It is your body and you know yourself better than he does. I find that drs sometimes think they know it all, but they really don't. Sometimes it's a crapshoot and they get lucky, other times they really do know things. But, when you don't feel right, and they say there isn't anything wrong, demand a retest. That might sound a little harsh, but as I have learned so much from DH (his late wife had Cystic Fibrosis and was in and out of hospitals literally all her life, he knew that when he met her but married her anyway - He took care of her for 7 years, until she passed away.. he is just amazing..) What I am trying to say is it is YOUR body - if YOU want a test done, ask for it.. If that dr says no, or you really don't need it, tell him it's YOUR body.. He needs you as a patient, you can get another dr if he won't listen to you.. It is sometimes hard to do that, but with the symptoms you have, demand an answer. I don't know what could be causing your symptoms, but you know it's not normal to lose that much hair.. and YOU want an answer!!! just my opinion, which are like asses....

AFM:
I went to the dr last week, Thursday I think.. DH helped me realize the depression was more than I could handle. I have something like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.. From fighting my ex for so long, then it finally being over (the custody and child support fight). The stress from that should have died down, but it was lingering too long. He is really, really the best.. God knew what He was doing, I met my soulmate!! Innocent So, the doctor put me on Wellbutrin, which was the safest for TTCing. Right now the benefits outweigh the risks if I conceived (but looking at DH's count, this might be a whole hell of a lot harder than we thought) Sad

I usually wake up between 4 and 5:30 am, no matter what time I go to bed. The first 2 nights on the medicine, I actually slept until 7ish.. Now, I am already back to waking early. Once I open my eyes, that's it for me, no matter what.. I can't ever just roll over and go back to sleep. I do get my alone time this way, though.. I usually come downstairs and head to the computer.. It's too hard to write when everyone is around - I can't think when it's a zoo..

Sorry this is so long, but I think we all have learned I do not write short stories!!!
FX TO EVERYONE - AND BABYDUST!!

Oh, one more thing.. the tickers.. Why does one say O is 10 days, and one says 11 days? They both have the 29 day cycle, so I don't get it... see - just one more thing to confuse us!!

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PS - Dawn, your ticker still isn't showing up.. I had to play around with mine before it did.. I copied and pasted so many times, I thought my fingers were glued to the computer!!
I am sure you can get it.. It is kind of tricky, but would love to see it! Wink

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Dawn.. I found this...

You need to copy the IMAGE URL and then click on the IMAGE icon under the signature option - it is in the top right hand side of the signature box, a small yellow icon with a gray mountains - and then copy the IMAGE URL in the first text field on the IMAGE pop up.

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Shep I still can't get the stupid thing to work..... Sad I'm sooo not good with this stuff. Anyways I'm 5 days till testing but I really don't think that it will be this month. Everyone says that you can feel it and you just know when you get prego before you miss your period and I don't feel anything. I'm doing ok with it this month though.

Maybe I'm not suppose to have a baby. I don't know there has to be a reason why I can't get pregnant. I know that everything happens for a reason, but I can't figure out why this isn't happening. I'm trying to be thankful for what I have and understand that my life will go on even if I don't have a baby.

Shep I hope the wellbutrin works well for you. I took that years ago when my periods were unbearable and I really liked it.

Amber how are you feeling? Sorry about the results in the mail. Did you get your dogs back to normal and your house?

Velly how is it going? When do you go back for your next treatment? I go back on Tuesday. Tuesday is a very busy day for me, I have the acupuncture then the specialist and when all that is done I'm going to get a deep tissue massage.

Sio and Maggy where are you guys? I hope everything is going good with you.

Have a good day ladies.

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Shep - I wouldn't rely on that expired test kit, what a bummer though. If I were you I'd complain everywhere and try to get my money back. And give it a bit more time, I have heard it takes a while for a good sperm count after a reversal. That's just so wonderful what a great relationship you and DH have, I know it will happen for you guys and you will be able to really enjoy the whole pregnancy and process with someone for once. Don't worry about long posts. You're like me Smile but we break them up with the response parts so it's not so bad. I'm glad you copied and pasted. I'm glad you went to the DR, I'm sure you do have something like post traumatic stress disorder, after dealing with an a-hole, sociopath like your ex for so long, if anyone can help you to get through this though it's your DH. Your DH has a great outlook on things, I think we should all try to have an outlook like that. I think when things settle a bit and a but of time passes so your DH sperm can rebuild you guys will get a BFP quick!

Dawn - I'm feeling ok, thanks. I just have to look forward to the future and the IVF and I'm fine. oh the house is still stinky but better, in fact when I went to yoga this morning I kept spelling skunk, then I realized it's my yoga mat, it just soaked up the smell, yuck! I don't think you are not meant to have babies, I also believe everything happens for a reason, but if you really want to have a baby and can picture yourself PG then don't give up yet.

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TTC #1 since 2008
Diagnosed with stage 4 Endometriosis in September 2010
3 failed IVF cycles with local clinic
1 failed cycle at CCRM But we got accepted into their new study so we are trying one last time! FX!
2nd cycle w/CCRM. 3 perfect blasts out of the bunch, xferred 1, BFP!!!!
DS Born June 24th! We are truly blessed.

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Hi everyone!

Amber, I am happy to hear that things are smelling better around your place LOL. I noticed on my ticker that it says 2 days till testing so I will wait and see. I have keeping myself very busy this 2WW so it has actually gone by very fast. I am feeling rather good considering, I am tired and have tender BB's but that could just mean AF is coming too...guess I will wait and see. Amber, don't give up even though you have the results in writing because when you least expect it, it could still happen!! Stay positive and I will keep my FX for you!

Shep, wow, I agree with Amber, I wouldn't rely on the expired test either. I think that you and your wonderful DH will get some good news one of these times! It sure sounds like your DH is amazing and a huge support to you and that is so important for everything you are going through right now. Not to mention all the thing he is willing to try in order for you to have a BFP! You are very fortunate to have a support system like that! That is strange that your tickers have two different days...it will be interesting to see which one is right! Keep us posted on that one! PS I love your long posts Smile

Dawn, please don't think that you are not supposed to have a baby! I know that we have all felt that way but try to keep a positive view on it...as much as you can!! I go for my next acup appointment on Friday and that is around the time I should be either testing or will have AF. Keep FX that I will have a BFP! It sounds like your Tuesday is going to be a very big day! You will finish it off nicely with a massage...that always makes my day better Wink

AFM, I have been very busy. I had to laugh because I was talking to a friend of mine who is due to have her baby in about a week and a half and she was telling me about how much nesting she has been doing and I said to her, I don't know what my excuse is but this weekend I cleaned my entire basement, took out 3 garbage bags of garbage, moved furniture around in my bedroom, cleaned the entire main floor of my house, baked cookies and danties scrubbed both of my bathrooms and hung pictures. Needless to say that could be the reason I am so tired Laughing out loud . I think in all honesty that the acupuncture treatment has given me more energy. Well this is the week either I get a BFP or AF comes...I am hoping for the BFP...FX

Hope everyone has a great day today...sending baby dust your way ladies Big smile

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Dawn, really quickly as I only have 1 minute - literally...
With my last 2 pregnancies, the 1st of the two, I miscarried, but anyway, I felt absolutely nothing!! No sore bb's, no crampy anything.. for both of them.. LITERALLY NOTHING!! That's why I was soooooo surprised when I got the BFP. I kept thinking 'no way'.. So, it can be either way - you can just 'FEEL IT", or 'FEEL NOTHING AT ALL'!! So, don't give anything up until the bit*h arrives!!! Wink

Thanks for the awesome posts, ladies.. I sure do appreciate it!! I will chat later when I have more time!!

FX and Babydust!!

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Thanks everyone for your kind words. I got my freakin AF tonight....wtf? I thought for sure this was it. My BB's hurt so bad I couldn't move without holding them and I've had a very faint cramp all day. I'm so over getting my AF. Why does it take some of us so long to get a BFP? I was going to take a test in the morning and then I was hoping that I would be able to cancel my appointment cause I wouldn't need it and then the ugly ass AF shows up.

Sorry I know that I'm bitching I'm just so over this. I hate that every month my mind plays tricks on me wishing that I won't get my AF and then it comes. Sad( I guess I need to shrug it off and get ready to try again.

Thanks for listening I know that each of us feels this way every time we get our AF. Velly I think you are next to test, I hope you get a BFP!!!

FX and Babydust!